Jay Gonzalez puts Charlie Baker on the ropes in TV debate

The Boston Globe

Democrat Jay Gonzalez put Charlie Baker on the ropes Wednesday, pressing the Republican governor in a televised debate to decide between bucking his party or backing a federal candidate who opposes abortion rights and supports President Trump.

Gonzalez, trailing in the polls, asked Baker directly whether he would vote for Geoff Diehl, the Republican nominee for US Senate, who is running against Elizabeth Warren and is part of the GOP ticket Baker has endorsed.

The query prompted a potentially damaging bout of indecisiveness from the state’s chief executive on live television, where he wavered and wobbled over several questions on Diehl — only committing to vote for him after the broadcast ended.

Initially, however, Baker, who supports abortion rights and has said he didn’t vote for Trump, met Gonzalez’s question with silence.

“Governor?” prompted co-moderator Jim Braude during the live event at WGBH-TV studios in Brighton.

“I’m going to vote for me, and I’m going to vote for Karyn Polito and I’m going to —” Baker paused — “vote for a series of other candidates as well. I don’t know what I’m going to do yet with respect to that one.”

“You don’t know if you’re going to vote for the guy you endorsed?” Braude asked.

“I haven’t made a decision,” the governor replied.

Gonzalez saw the opening and pressed further: “So you’re asking people in Massachusetts to vote for Geoff Diehl, and you’re not even going to vote for him?”

Baker replied: “I said I was going to support the ticket and I do.”

“But you may not vote for the ticket?” Braude pushed again.

Baker said he would make his decision “eventually” and would make sure people know.

Eventually turned out to be a few minutes later, when Baker told reporters at WGBH studios after the debate that “in the back and forth” he misspoke and will vote for Diehl.

“Look, I said I was going to support the ticket. I’m going to vote for the ticket,” Baker said. “I’m going to vote for him.”

The exchange about Diehl was the most evocative of the debate and took place on fertile political ground for Gonzalez.

He has tried previously, without much apparent success, to tie Baker to Trump, who is seen unfavorably by a big majority of likely voters in Massachusetts. But Wednesday, Gonzalez pushed Baker to say he will vote for Diehl, who cochaired Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign in Massachusetts and has positioned himself as a Trump-style conservative.

After the hourlong forum, Gonzalez worked to twist the dagger.

“You know, he can’t have it both ways,” the Democrat told reporters. “He can’t say he is for a women’s right to choose, for LGBTQ rights, and then ask the people in Massachusetts to support Geoff Diehl, and then waffle on whether he’s going to support Geoff Diehl.”

During the debate, Gonzalez also latched onto simmering scandals at the Massachusetts State Police, including revelations last week it had sought to destroy years of audit and payroll records.

Baker called the attempt a “mistake.” (No records were ultimately destroyed, the State Police said.) But the governor staunchly defended his handpicked colonel, Kerry A. Gilpin. He said he didn’t believe she knew about it, and argued that the records weren’t part of an investigation into dozens of troopers who’ve been targeted in an overtime fraud scandal.

“What you were just talking about was an attempted coverup,” Gonzalez charged, saying the records were “relevant” to the allegations.

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2018-10-18T10:48:42+00:00